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very long time ago... Am 13 Jun 2004, um 18:38 hat Stefan Merten geschrieben:
Commons - ------- Eben Moglen also was the one who gave some very interesting insights about the notion of the commons (a notion I can hardly think of a German translation for). He pointed out that the commons are the space between the private (capitalist) sector and the public (state) sector. This is what is becoming more and more important today and the private and state sector are attracted by these commons. Eben expressed it by saying that the commons are becoming the gravity center. This is what we desribe as the germ form becoming dominant in step four of the five-step model [http://www.oekonux.org/introduction/blotter/default_16.html]. If I compare this with what we are doing here I'd say Free Software is the most important germ form [http://www.oekonux.org/introduction/blotter/default_15.html] for this commons. Taking this further the GPL society could also be called the commons based society. When I hear this argumentation it reminds me strongly of the 3. Stand (can't find an English translation in LEO :-( ) which has been the bourgeoise sector in medieval societies distinguished from the feudal state (1. Stand) as well as from the church (2. Stand). As we remember it was this 3. Stand who brought about fundamental change. Creative Commons Licenses - ------------------------- Actually at the WOS I think for the first time I understood the importance of the Creative Commons License. So far I thought about as just another license for content of any sort. Though on first sight this seems to be true I think it has some important features other licenses of this sort do not have. At first it is really thought out very well. For instance it is made not only for the US but there are big efforts to make versions of the Creative Commons License which perfectly fit into the legal framework of the nations states of this planet conveying the intended meaning into each of them. Second I think there is no license which is advertised so well as the Creative Commons License. From this alone one can expect a big awareness and following a big distribution of the license and thus a massive increase of Free Goods. Given the Oekonux background this is something which can be expected and at the moment I think the Creative Commons License is the thing which will really help to take off this process. Third the Creative Commons License gives people a choice on how their particular license shall look like. This is combined with some easy to understand icons so this license is really user friendly :-) . I have been sceptical about this last feature because when for instance you look at the rights Free Software gives there is no discrimination against any field allowed. The Creative Commons License, however, allows for denying commercial use. Though from a fundamentalist standpoint this is a no-no today I think it may be it better to give people this option when they want it. At least it is worth a try. Larry also mentioned some numbers about how many people choose which option of the license but I can' remember them. It would be interesting to check this out. Does anyone have information on this? As a result I currently think of the Creative Commons License as the generalization of the GPL and therefore an important step forward.
ich hab noch mal nach moglen gesucht und diese mail gefunden. und lasst mich sagen: ich fand es schon besser, als s.mn. hier in ox-de noch mailte. denn eine liste in der der maintainer nun gar nix mehr sagt... tja... dat nich das gelbe vom ei. be sure. gruesse, karl cc _______________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.de/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: projekt oekonux.de
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