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Re: [ox] Re: Technik auf den Diskussionslisten?



Am 9 Mar 2005, um 11:17 hat Benni Baermann geschrieben:


Wie auch immer ... sorry für den schlechten Eindruck, den wir machen.
Ist mir schon klar, dass das auf Aussenstehende bizarr wirken muss ;-)

Grüße, Benni
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Hi Benni, hi all,

also "ich" fühl mich in deinem "wir" nicht angesprochen. Will 
sagen: ich vermeide es hier so gut es geht einen schlechten 
Eindruck zu machen... :)

Noch ein Gedanke, der mir in den aktuellen Dingen nicht unwichtig 
erscheint ist folgender: solange ich nix von Stefan Mz. höre, dass 
er die aktuellen Dinge in ox so schlecht findet wie du, bin ich 
einigermassen beruhigt. Auch wenn Hans-Gert hier mitmacht, dann 
denke ich: so mies kann das hier ja nicht sein. Ich könnte weitere 
nennen, aber hör hier mal auf. Und auch klar: der "crash" von 
Stefan Mn. mit Geert, der wiederum gibt mir zu denken, aber da 
dazu nix an Fakten zu lesen ist, kann sich da niemand ein eigenes 
Urteil bilden.

OK, noch ein feiner text im kontext zum aktuellen main-theme:

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OnGettingAlong 

By Howard Zinn 

You ask how I manage to stay involved and remain seemingly 
happy and 
adjusted to this awful world where the efforts of caring people pale 
in comparison to those who have power? It's easy. First, don't 
let "those who have power" intimidate you. No matter how much 
power they have they cannot prevent you from living your life, 
speaking your mind, thinking independently, having > relationships 
with people as you like. (Read Emma Goldman's autobiography 
LIVING MY LIFE. Harassed, even imprisoned by authority, she 
insisted on living her life, speaking out, however she felt like.  

Second, find people to be with who have your values, your 
commitments, but who also have a sense of humor. That 
combination is a necessity! 

Third (notice how precise is my 
advice that I can confidently number it, the way scientists 
number things), understand that the major media will not tell you 
of all the acts of resistance taking place every day in the society, 
the strikes, the protests, the individual  acts of courage in the 
face of authority. Look around (and you will  certainly find it) for 
the evidence of these unreported acts. And for the little you find, 
extrapolate from that and assume there must be a thousand 
times as much as what you've found. 

Fourth. Note that 
throughout history people have felt powerless before authority, 
but that at certain times these powerless people, by organizing, 
acting, risking, persisting, have created enough power to change 
the world around them, even if a little. That is the history of the 
labor movement, of the women's movement, of the anti-Vietnam 
war movement, the disabled persons movement, the gay and 
lesbian movement, the movement of black people in the South.  

Fifth: Remember, that those who have power, and who seem 
invulnerable  are in fact quite vulnerable, that their power depends 
on the  obedience of others, and when those others begin 
withholding that obedience, begin defying authority, that power at 
the top turns out to be very fragile. Generals become powerless 
when their soldiers refuse to fight, industriaists become 
powerless when their workers leave the jobs or occupy the 
factories. 

Sixth: When we forget the fragility of that power in top 
we become astounded when it crumbles in the face of rebellion. 
We have had many such surprises in our time, both in the United 
States and in other countries. 

Seventh: Don't look for a 
moment of total triumph. See it as an ongoing struggle, with 
victories and defeats, but in the long run the consciousness of 
people growing. So you need patience, persistence, and need to 
understand that even when you don't "win," there is fun and 
fulfillment in the fact that you have been involved, with other good 
people, in something worthwhile. 

Okay, seven pieces of 
profound advice should be enough.

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auf dem Erhalten entlang 

durch Howard Zinn 

fragen Sie, wie ich zum Aufenthalt handhabe, der betroffen ist und 
bleiben 
und justiert auf diese schreckliche Welt scheinbar glücklich, in 
der die Bemühungen der interessierenden Leute  im Vergleich zu 
denen pale, die Energie haben?  

... 

ps. ich hab den rest der maschinellen google-translation mal 
deleted... :)

pss. und für GO-spieler noch der link ins GO-wiki:
Sensei = Wiki rund um das Spiel GO http://senseis.xmp.net/

psss. und noch eines von den ganz guten wikis: meatball
MeatballWiki englischsprachiges Wiki zu Online Communities 
http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?MeatballWiki 

...und in kürze wird das erste wiki der welt: 10 jahre alt: c2-wiki


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